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  • Design your own twills, with our new Twill Generator!

    Posted by Kathy on August 28, 2023 at 11:07 am

    Janet has come up with a new tool for you!

    The Twill Generator is a fun way to design your very own, original twills, using 3-64 shafts.

    There is a video that shows how to use it, and we need your feedback!

    Let us know what you love about the generator, and where it can be improved, and of course, feel free to share the designs you come up with!

    Kathy replied 1 year, 1 month ago 9 Members · 34 Replies
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  • Janet Dawson

    Administrator
    August 28, 2023 at 11:38 am
    • Kathy

      Administrator
      August 28, 2023 at 11:43 am

      That is an interesting one Janet, did you make it and then upload it to handweaving.net?

      • Janet Dawson

        Administrator
        August 28, 2023 at 11:47 am

        I made it and then uploaded it to the Draft Editor here in the Academy, by clicking on the ‘Open it in Draft Editor link.‘ It says ‘From Handweaving.net’ at the bottom, but it’s entirely Academy-grown. :)

        • Kathy

          Administrator
          August 28, 2023 at 12:07 pm

          Thanks for clarifying that!

  • Janet Dawson

    Administrator
    August 28, 2023 at 11:44 am
  • Janet Dawson

    Administrator
    August 28, 2023 at 11:45 am
  • Carly Jayne

    Member
    August 28, 2023 at 6:12 pm

    SO FUN. Janet Makes the most fun toys.

    These could make some rad napkins! Time to order some thread :)

  • Cass Markovich

    Member
    August 29, 2023 at 8:05 am

    I love this! I love the subtle design in the background. Is this a rigid heddle design?

    • Janet Dawson

      Administrator
      August 29, 2023 at 2:39 pm

      I’m looking on my phone so everything is Very Very Wee, but that *looks* like a three shaft threading like the ones from Carly’s 3ST class… and her upcoming class on converting those to a RH threading. :D

    • Carly Jayne

      Member
      September 8, 2023 at 5:20 pm

      I think I can heddle it! I can’t wait to try it out!

  • Sheila Roberts

    Member
    September 1, 2023 at 12:20 pm

    Maybe I’m missing something obvious, but I have no idea how to use the twill generator. I open it up, and there is no existing twill to modify and when I click “generate” nothing happens. What am I doing wrong?

    • Sheila Roberts

      Member
      September 2, 2023 at 1:52 pm

      Figured it out!

    • Janet Dawson

      Administrator
      September 3, 2023 at 8:13 am

      There was a temporary glitch that’s fixed now. :)

      • Sheila Roberts

        Member
        September 3, 2023 at 8:43 am

        I think there’s still a problem–when I download the wif file, there are spots where there’s a blank space in the threading.

        • Sheila Roberts

          Member
          September 3, 2023 at 9:44 am

          This happens when I have “show markers” turned on.

        • Janet Dawson

          Administrator
          September 3, 2023 at 11:13 am

          That’s intentional, so that you can easily see where repeats and mirrors are in case you want them as landmarks for colors or other design tweaking. If you turn off the markers in the display, they won’t be in the downloaded .wif, either.

  • Holly Haynes

    Member
    September 3, 2023 at 3:07 pm

    Here’s one that I did — interesting.

  • Sheila Roberts

    Member
    September 3, 2023 at 7:01 pm

    This is kind of fun!

    • Mary Dyer

      Member
      September 4, 2023 at 2:39 am

      That looks like a keeper!

  • Joy Pate

    Member
    September 4, 2023 at 11:35 am

    I finally got a chance to get into the twill generator. I am one of those people who lack patience to watch instructional videos, usually just learn by doing. But in this case, I had no idea where to start, so clicked on the video. WOW!!!!! Janet, I can’t believe you created this! The video is so helpful. I made a single wif, doing very little manipulation from what was there, and then couldn’t resist playing with color with it. This twill generator is the biggest rabbit hole ever! I may forget to eat or go to bed….

    • Sheila Roberts

      Member
      September 4, 2023 at 12:54 pm

      I love how you’re playing with color–I was so caught up in the structure that I kinda forgot about color.

    • Janet Dawson

      Administrator
      September 6, 2023 at 10:52 am

      Eeeeee! I love them! I love that you’re playing with the generator! :D :D :D

      • Joy Pate

        Member
        September 6, 2023 at 11:07 am

        I am in there now, and my computer may blow up with so many wif downloads! I am trying to make 12S advancing twills that make long advances across the width of the cloth (long diagonals), rather than blocks of advances. I can’t seem to figure out how to make that work in the twill generator. Any suggestions?

        • Janet Dawson

          Administrator
          September 6, 2023 at 12:49 pm

          Hmm. I’ll go try it! If I figure it out I’ll show it off during tonight’s Live Lecture. :D

        • Janet Dawson

          Administrator
          September 6, 2023 at 12:53 pm

          @joy-pate Is this the kind of thing you mean?

          • Joy Pate

            Member
            September 6, 2023 at 1:32 pm

            Was there supposed to be a picture with this?

            • Janet Dawson

              Administrator
              September 7, 2023 at 11:17 am

              Huh. There most assuredly was. I wonder where it went?

        • Janet Dawson

          Administrator
          September 6, 2023 at 1:03 pm

          @joy-pate Here’s another option. You can’t do this one in the Twill Generator yet.

          • Joy Pate

            Member
            September 6, 2023 at 1:31 pm

            Yes! That is the kind of thing. Here is one I was playing with today from HW.net, and thought if I could make it in the twill generator I could easily add shafts and play with advance numbers. But, I ????❤ that word, ‘yet’ :)

  • Barb Thoreson

    Member
    September 5, 2023 at 8:19 am

    One suggestion – can you freeze the threading area so you don’t have to scroll up to the top each time you want to see your changes? (As a programmer, I understand it’s easier said than done!) Just a thought…

    • Janet Dawson

      Administrator
      September 6, 2023 at 10:53 am

      Oooo! What a good idea! I… can probably figure that out? Eventually? It’ll require hacking the html into parts and making some of it sticky and some of it not, but I can sort of imagine how that’d work, so I bet I can do it without toooooo much trouble? I’ll try!

  • Barb Thoreson

    Member
    September 5, 2023 at 8:34 am

    Great program and video Janet! Having a ball clicking away.

    • Kathy

      Administrator
      September 9, 2023 at 6:09 am

      Oh Barb, I really like that one! I think it would have great texture!

  • Janet Dawson

    Administrator
    September 6, 2023 at 11:23 am

    I broke it! And then I fixed it again, and now there’s NEW STUFF!

    Changes to old stuff:

    • You can view the twill in either numeric or grid mode. Grid is now the default.
    • Markers are now off by default.
    • The button bars have moved around some. It’s hard to know where to put things!
    • The [-/+] button bar now shows you how many ends, how many repeats, how many mirrors, how big an advance.
    • The [-] and [+] buttons grey out now when you can’t go up or down anymore.
    • The [Generate]/[Regenerate] button at the top is greyed out now when clicking it won’t do anything. (See caveats below.)
    • The [Random all] button has been moved to the row of presets and now generates a new twill immediately.

    New stuff:

    • Added the ability to (vertically) flip each consecutive “repeat” of generated ends, so that M&W and similar are possible. There’s a new [Flip Repeats]/[Unflip Repeats] toggle button.
    • I added a row of “presets” that generate common twills: straight, point, rosepath, M&W and some others. Set your # of shafts and then click on any of the preset buttons to make it go!
    • If you use one of the presets, the filename of the WIF now reflects that. (Even without a preset, it will sometimes identify an advancing or reversing twill. Sometimes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)
    • Added the ability to add or remove ends from the generated length. (See caveats below.)

    Fixed bugs:

    • Things used to go pear shaped if you had a negative advance step and too many repeats. Now they don’t!

    Now for the caveats:

    • Adding or removing ends only affects the current twill, not your specified length to generate. If you say you want a length of 24 ends and then snip a few off the end to get rid of a point you don’t like, the next time you generate your threading will have 24 ends again. Same is true if you add them.
    • If you add ends to a preset threading it should add them in the expected pattern. If you add ends to a random threading, you’ll just get straight draw heading in the same direction the threading was already going. If you remove ends from a random threading and then add them back again, you won’t get the original threading back. Instead, you’ll get your snipped off version plus some straight draw going in the direction the original threading (not the snipped version!) was heading at the end.
    • When the [Generate]/[Regenerate] button at the top is greyed out it still (re)generates your twill! If there isn’t anything random about your twill (because you’ve used a preset, or because both the chance of reversing and the chance of breaking at reversals are either 0 or 100) the regenerated threading will look exactly like the old one unless you added or removed generated ends.

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