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  • Janet Dawson

    Administrator
    June 13, 2023 at 2:32 pm

    I recommend The Crackle Weave by Mary E. Snyder and Weave Classic Crackle & More by Susan Wilson if you’re looking to really dig into and understand the structure. Snyder’s is dandy but one of those olde timey books with no pictures apart from a couple of drawings, so if you want sexy project photos Wilson’s is your best bet. Either one will tell you what you need to know about Crackle on 4 or 8 (or more); you won’t have to work as hard to make sense of the Wilson book as the Snyder one, though, as it’s written in a more modern and approachable style.

    A Crackle Weave Companion by Lucy M. Brusic is for four shafts only and very basic. If that’s what you’re after, it might be worth a look. It’s a compilation of information found in the book by Snyder mentioned above, in A Handweavers Pattern Book by Marguerite Davison, and in The Recipe Book by Mary Meigs Atwater (which I don’t own but want!), so if you have those three books you won’t get anything new from Brusic apart from some rather uninspiring (IMO) photos.

  • Janet Dawson

    Administrator
    June 13, 2023 at 2:34 pm

    FYI, as we’ll see once we get to courses about crackle, most of what you see on e.g. Handweaving.net that’s labeled as crackle isn’t crackle, it’s just woven on a threading that could be used for crackle – much like flame point, echo fashion, etc. aren’t really overshot, they’re entirely different treadling systems that look really good on a threading that can also be used for traditional overshot.

    • Sandra Lincoln

      Member
      June 13, 2023 at 5:09 pm

      Wow! Janet. I just ordered the Atwater book, http://mmawg.org/resources.htm here is the link. I have a ton of books but they are packed in a box so heavy I can’t move it, and no bookcase to move them to. I have to move it to make room for loom #2. So I guess I have a couple more books to look for. I have a chance to get Weaving With Echo & Iris, by Marian Stubenitsky , is this a book that is worth buying? Ordered the books you suggested as well. Yeah, me I love books. Thank you so much Janet.

      • Janet Dawson

        Administrator
        June 13, 2023 at 5:30 pm

        I have it and I love it, but as always it depends on your own interests. Marian writes the kinds of books I adore: very detailed, very technical, and fairly advanced. They’re the sort of books that weavers form study groups to work through as a group once they get stuck on their own. (I’m in a study group right now that’s working through her Double with a Twist book.)

        Marian’s books are often most useful to folks with at least eight shafts – she does include theory and drafts for just four shafts and some again for eight, but often the most stunning and drool-worthy samples are done on oodles of shafts. The books do include information you can follow to reproduce the samples that you have enough shafts for, but they don’t include worked out projects with numbers of ends, length of warp, and all the details worked out. Marian gives you the info you need but it’s up to you to run with that info and put it to use.

        For what it’s worth, she just released a new book titled Max8. The drafts in it range from two shafts to eight; nothing in it is done on more than eight and there’s a good number on four or fewer, including some 2 shaft drafts from Erica de Reiuter which folks may know from Weaving on 3 Shafts, aka the best rigid heddle book never written. ;) It doesn’t have the theory that her other books have done since it isn’t focused on one particular structure or theme. I just got my copies of Max8 (and more copies of Weave3!) and am anxious to have time to really dig into it.

        • Sandra Lincoln

          Member
          June 14, 2023 at 7:44 am

          There are days I just hate computers, mine is so touchy that if I even graze over the touchpad, everything is gone. Try #3, It sounds like Max 8 will be a better choice if I am going to spend that much money. I thought Echo and Iris were out of print because I could not find them anywhere. So next paycheck, why does everything wait for the next paycheck? Thank you I know you will get to Crackle sooner or later but I would really like Krokbragd first. Thank you once again, and yeah I made it to the end of the third post.

          • Holly Haynes

            Member
            June 22, 2023 at 10:44 am

            You can save some $$ if you order directly from Marian’s website. There is a good exchange for the Euro to the dollar and the shipping costs are about the same as it is from a US vendor. I ordered mine this way and it came really fast.

            • Sandra Lincoln

              Member
              June 23, 2023 at 2:57 am

              Holly, are you in the States or Canada? The last I ordered from Europe I paid the exchange rate. But I will check it out. Thanks.

            • Holly Haynes

              Member
              June 23, 2023 at 12:14 pm

              I’m in Seattle. At the current exchange rate, ordering the book directly is about $49. Shipping is in addition to that but I think it was only about $10. The dollar is really strong against the Euro right now.

            • Sandra Lincoln

              Member
              June 23, 2023 at 9:08 pm

              Thanks, Holly, you will have to tell me where you found it that cheap, they want 300 I. In euro which translates into $328. us dollars. One website wanted $129.00 plus shipping here in the US, I know shipping is expensive, but that is crazy.

            • Holly Haynes

              Member
              June 24, 2023 at 11:18 am

              Marian handled the shipping. If you are interested in buying from her, contact her about the shipping.

            • Sandra Lincoln

              Member
              June 24, 2023 at 1:16 pm

              Thanks, Holly I will do that, I think there was an email there.

  • Laura Fry

    Member
    June 13, 2023 at 4:10 pm

    Oh, there you go, being all ‘it depends’ and stuff again. :D I mentioned two-tie unit weave somewhere recently and didn’t give the tie up and treadling because my point was that the two tie unit weave threading can be woven in multiple weave structures, so to call it by a weave structure just wasn’t very helpful. It’s a threading *system* – it’s what you do with it that makes it a *structure*…

    Love those rabbit warrens…

  • Dayamitra Blenman

    Member
    June 15, 2023 at 3:44 pm

    Wow! What a great thread! I love books on weaving and will check out these books. Crackle weave intrigues me.

    • Sandra Lincoln

      Member
      June 17, 2023 at 5:03 pm

      I have several books with some crackle weave in them but not much. But I had found the Atwater book Janet mentioned and ordered it. The Max 8 looks like a great book. But the price is $80. But I will order it next paycheck.

  • Sandra Lincoln

    Member
    June 20, 2023 at 2:33 pm

    I suppose I should be working on my WAL project or working on the twill class. I have to go back to one of the other classes before I move forward on it thou. So I have been reading searching etc. on Crackle. The picture it a draft I found in the 8 shaft Strickler book, a draft by Susan Wilson, I am not 100% understand the treadling so I put in my own 12345678910 and back and this is what it came out to. Yeah me. I think it’s cool.For this one threading, there are at least 9 treadlings, I just gave it a 10th. I am sure the possibilities for treadling are endless.

    Janet, I have been playing with this draft, on page 136 in the Strickler book, and putting the treadlings in that are in the book, but my drawdowns do not look like the picture. it is because of the tabby or just the way it is. Or I can’t read it. I think the treadleing is saying treadle 2 on shaft 3/ , 2 on 4, / 2 on 5, / 2 on 6 and so on but my drawdown looks nothing like the picture??

    Having fun

    EDIT: I have been playing with this draft and I have figured out the treadling. What fun this has been Like with overshot, the crackle has as many treadlings as you can make up.

    • Janet Dawson

      Administrator
      June 21, 2023 at 5:52 pm

      Overshot and crackle are both derived from twill and work on the same kinds of threadings as twill (I’m trying to be extra careful not to call them “twill threadings” right now but old habits die hard), so any “twill treadling” (oops, there I go) works well on them. You don’t get the Actual Crackle(tm) or Real Overshot(tm) structures when you treadle that way, but if you like the result who cares what it’s called? Besides me, I mean. :P

      True Crackle(tm) is woven on point threadings – often advancing point threadings – and those always look really, really tasty with point treadlings and a twill tie-up! You can’t go wrong!

      • Sandra Lincoln

        Member
        June 22, 2023 at 5:57 am

        Thank you Janet, I have been having fun with this and spending to much time on the computer designing than weaving.

        In bed last night I realized on my shawl I forgot to put the strip of gradient in, and its advanced further than I wanted it put in. Decision time again do I take it out or put my strip 25 inches in on one end. OMG if there was more crap in my head this week, I need a vacation. A real one where I do nothing but hang out and drink cocktails with my toes in the sand, and a gallon of sunblock.

        • Janet Dawson

          Administrator
          June 22, 2023 at 8:02 am

          Please do not drink a gallon of sunblock. I can’t think that would be good for you.

          • Sandra Lincoln

            Member
            June 23, 2023 at 3:01 am

            Janet, I can save some for you if you want. lol, Redheads tend to scorch in the sun so gotta do something, I could drink margaritas by the gallon but that I know is not good for me, I love them but my tummy says only one or two, to much acid.

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